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deepfates's avatar

Which is not to say that groups like the zizians, vassarites and leverage aren't real or aren't culty. But I would venture that the dynamic here is more that a bunch of open-minded people trying to change the way they live is a absolute hunting ground for cult leaders, rather than some inherent failing in "trying to be more rational" as a lifestyle

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Max Read's avatar

I think this basically matches what I'm saying! I'm not convinced that "Rationalism" as a movement is adequately described as simply "trying to be more rational," though.

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SkinShallow's avatar

I feel rats subculture/movement is what happens when intellectual openness to experience/ideas combined with high IQ and arrogance these two traits generate collide with autistic-like need for certainty (however you define the latter).

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