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Devin Fitzpatrick's avatar

I appreciate these reflections. I'm stuck on that line from the Argument, that the platforms are not a problem because they are big, but rather big because they are a problem. This strikes me as precisely the key reactionary move that turns what *could* be a substantive reflection on the harms of platforms into a sop to Big Tech: "just manage the harms and you don't need to break them up." Oh, word? And who will manage the harms, RFK Jr.? I don't buy it. This will only result in do-nothingism at best or further radicalization in the name of health at worst.

It's reasonable in principle to be concerned with mitigating consequences and not just nipping causes in the bud, and it's *possible* that material change can happen downstream of cultural intervention generally speaking, but like, if slop is a problem, consider how much capital has been required to produce it! If the companies weren't so big, how could the health harms exist at such scale? In other words, this is what to look out for: someone who says the cultural harms are a problem is likely right, but someone who deemphasizes the material conditions of operations that require massive amounts of capital in favor of a focus on culture isn't serious, even or especially about the culture.

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Alys Rowe's avatar

I mean the difference between Big Tech and Big Tobacco is that a cigarette isn't speech whereas a social media post is. There's a very dangerous animalising 'reduction to bare life' logic to all this, particularly in these public health/epidemiological framings, which I think needs to be pretty emphatically rejected. Like it's strange to reach for temperance movements, which dealt with intoxicating substances with no propositional content to them, as your historical analogy when the big glaring historical precedent surely is fascist censorship of degenerate art. What else does 'slop' mean here other than as a neologism for precisely the same problematic: the decivilising socially destructive impacts of degenerate forms of expression on the body politic? It's sort of besides the point whether or not one agrees with the aesthetic/intellectual/moral/whatever criteria by which it's judged to be worthless slop; one ought nonetheless want to retain the freedom to decide this for oneself, because what is lost in the taking over of this role by the state isn't just the content in question, it's political life per se in the Agambenian sense.

There also seems to me in this to be a troubling slippage between trying to remove moral hazard from the process by which the underlying infrastructure is designed (which doesn't immediately raise such concerns for me) and proposals which in practice amount to sweeping censorship of particular content. Section 230 is a speech protection for ordinary users, even if it's immediately a protection of corporations from liability: it's a measure that prevents platforms from being compelled by liability to institute overbearing surveillance and censorship practices, for which the incentives are perversely biased in the direction of conservatism (there's far more to lose by being too soft and incurring liability than there is to gain by standing up courageous for gray area expression and edge cases). Get rid of Section 230 and the consequence is you'll unleash a wave of censorship of the arts, political and critical speech, LGBT expression and sex education material and so on that the Moral Majority could only dream of, which will clearly not break out on lines that any left-wing person will understand as reasonable (I mean, just take a look at what's currently happening wrt "antifa" and trans expression), and which doesn't actually impact the addiction-forming technical mechanisms that this is all ostensibly about. This all seems extraordinarily dangerous to me.

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